For some people, shooting at ships with no guns is the riskiest thing they will ever do.

Lets not belittle their achievements.

Ihubs dont have guns, freighters dont have guns. I think i get it now :)

Thanks for the clarification.

CODE. in july killed 4,407 ships;

- 4,118 high sec ganks.

- 281 kills in pyne with an insta-lock camp that runs away from anything that might fight back.

- 0 null sec kills.

In short:
CODE are the biggest cowards eve has ever seen excepting goons

What i actually wrote was the stats were better than i thought and you guys are actually awesome. It would seem you doubt my sincerity? I wonder why that is?

So you're saying 13% of your kills were valid PvP fights, and not ganks? That metric still doesn't look good from a mathematical viewpoint.

Personally I don't see any issues with ganking freighters, haulers, miners, even shuttles and noob ships.

In null or low sec it is a no brainer assuming the target is not blue to the ganker. A certain level of skill and/or luck is required on the part of the ganker to find and kill the target, coupled with the decision on the part of the target to place his vessel in the hostile environment in the first place.

In high sec it can be justified, when the benefit outweighs the expected losses. I'm thinking an operation where a freighter is scanned to find a valuable cargo and then a suicide gank is carried out with a hauler being brought in to scoop the loot and the expected haul to more than cover the cost of the lost suicided ships.

I take my hat off to people that manage this. I've even done it a couple of times. The fact that I don't do it more is because it isn't as easy as it sounds. Requires patience and a sec status which I just can't be bothered to maintain or pay for. That's assuming that the purpose of said gank, has a 'real' objective. I say this because there is no skill on the part of the ganker, or luck involved, or bad play on the part of the target.

And there is the rub that I think most people have with Code and other parties that do what they do. What is their objective?

Looking at Code's Killboard, it clearly isn't profit. It appears to be Killboard padding. Now in my opinion killboard padding is a valid objective. However, if you are going for killboard padding, you have to be honest. It seems these people are exploiting the fact that their losses to Concord are not pulled to the killboard, so they are getting these great killboard stats and isk efficiencies while just pretending that they didn't lose anything and we haven't even got onto the very real and significant additional cost of buying back your sec status.

In short they are trading Isk via a flawed mechanic for killmails so that they can pretend to be leet PvPers.

They will of course say, it is about the tears etc, but I think this bitter comment was very telling.


It is clear that the real sting for the author here is that the 1% damage from another player, resulted in the killmail getting pulled by the killboards.

Guys, if it is killboard padding you want and you can't be honest about it. A more efficient method would be to just post fake mails. But I guess the popular independent killboards take measures to stop that sort of thing. It's just not fair is it?

I would just like to clarify, that was over june and july, there were no low sec kills in june so the actual percentage over that sample was closer to 6%.

CONGRATULATIONS!!

That is exactly why im congratulating you.

Wow.

Gotta give DJentropy Ovaert some credit for trying so damn hard to convince everyone what CODE does is proper pvp.

Thanks ISD Atomic Dove

DJ Ovary Wrote - Everyone can put politics and wars aside when it comes to the common goal of blowing up shiny things that are idiot fit and probably on auto :)

An idiot fit?

They are piloting Orca's and Freighters. Not much fit to them. Unlike the Blob that shows up and attacks them.

The real question that cannot be misdirected is why doesn't CODE go into Low and Null Sector and preform the same actions?

The reason being is that the ships and pilots in low and null have teeth and bite back unlike CODE that beats around freighters and orca's like they are little old women and men in wheel chairs that can't fight back.

What a shame it will be for the Amarr Faction War when the Minmatar show up at one your sector POS bashing's or when the Minmatar show up in Aufay to bash CODE around.

The Amarr Militia are a joke in the faction war and they know they are. Just like everyone knows that CODE and James315 is also a joke. A joke that will persist forever for the Amarr Militia but will wax and wane into nothingness for CODE.

Only reason CODE killboards look good is because losses to CONCORD are not counted.

Fact is, if more people whored on the CONCORD kills against CODE, those killboards would look like shite.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1806895&view=losses&m=08&y=2014

Only Concord kills that show are the ones that players whored on. I'm sure you have a lot more than that.

I know that fleet setup. The insta-locking gate camp setup. Scouts in adjacent systems, ships are fitted with rails or arty, sitting off gate at optimal ranges, if anything big shows up, or opposing fleet; ya'll warp off to one of loyalanon's safes. Yeah, DJ, real pro.

#wrekt

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Wished I could see your face now.... XD

I can't tell you how disappointed I am that a gatecamp was running for that long without a goon managing to die to it. At least you got a Bastion member, that's almost kinda the same thing.

Look at the ganking scrubs, bein all scrubby in scrubsec.

Right now that my post is at the level of posting of the rest of you I shall be real.

Firstly, nobody really cares and this does not warrant a thread.

Secondly, you talk like code ar the first group who did organised ganking. Son, you are far from the first and for sure wont be the last because you will no doubt get bored of such uneventful pvp and some other slack jawed fool will take your place.

Lastly, biohazard were in amarr militia for a while. Gallente before that and started of in minmatar. Don't take their movement as any kind of reflection on amarr militias real attitude to caldari. Caldari gallente minmatar, your all scum to us, jut that 2 of you show up orange and the other shows up purple. Also from my understanding biohazard is where it is because the then CEO aslon wanted to move to Nullsec, most of his pilots didnt want to go, alliance disbanded, CEO left, majority of leadership has left. All you have is the leftovers of a failed minmatar talwar blob corp.

And on the topic on amarr vs caldari, if you got the likes of 24eme or DnG to attack caldari, then you can call it real war between us.

Until that point you can continue to faceroll in highsec

In conclusion. **** you.

Interesting dev blog about systems with high gank rates having their security status upped to make it harder to gank!

Might be interesting.

Nah sec only drops in systems that once had lower sec. Current sec is baseline.

You dont care about our little FW?

I dont care about your pressing F1 against AFK autopiloting ships.

As for the apparent rage, nah bro this is just good internet smack talk. I have a degree in it from Infantry Online.

Scrub lords of scrubsec remain scrubby